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Quantum steps towards the Big Bang
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Space consists of tiny elementary cells or "atoms of space" in some modern theories of quantum gravity trying to unify General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics. Quantum gravity should make it possible to describe the evolution of the universe from the Big Bang to today within one single theory. Credit: T. Thiemann (FAU Erlangen), Albert Einstein Institute, Milde Marketing Wissenschaftskommunikation, exozet effects

(Phys.org) —Present-day physics cannot describe what happened in the Big Bang. Quantum theory and the theory of relativity fail in this almost infinitely dense and hot primal state of the universe. Only an all-encompassing theory of quantum gravity which unifies these two fundamental pillars of physics could provide an insight into how the universe began. Scientists from the Max Planck Institute for Gravitational Physics (Albert Einstein Institute) in Golm/Potsdam and the Perimeter Institute in Canada have made an important discovery along this route. According to their theory, space consists of tiny "building blocks". Taking this as their starting point, the scientists arrive at one of the most fundamental equations of cosmology, the Friedmann equation, which describes the universe. This shows that quantum mechanics and the theory of relativity really can be unified.

For almost a century, the two major theories of physics have coexisted but have been irreconcilable: while Einstein's General Theory of Relativity describes gravity and thus the world at large, describes the world of atoms and . Both theories work extremely well within their own boundaries; however, they break down, as currently formulated, in certain extreme regions, at extremely tiny distances, the so-called Planck scale, for example. Space and time thus have no meaning in black holes or, most notably, during the Big Bang.

Daniele Oriti from the Albert Einstein Institute uses a fluid to illustrate this situation: "We can describe the behaviour of flowing water with the long-known classical theory of hydrodynamics. But if we advance to smaller and smaller scales and eventually come across individual atoms, it no longer applies. Then we need quantum physics." Just as a liquid consists of atoms, Oriti imagines to be made up of or "atoms of space", and a new theory is required to describe them: quantum gravity.

Continuous space is broken down into elementary cells

In Einstein's relativity theory, space is a continuum. Oriti now breaks down this space into tiny elementary cells and applies the principles of quantum physics to them, thus to space itself and to the describing it. This is the unification idea.

A fundamental problem of all approaches to quantum gravity consists in bridging the huge dimensional scales from the space atoms to the dimensions of the universe. This is where Oriti, his colleague Lorenzo Sindoni and Steffen Gielen, a former postdoc at the AEI who is now a researcher at the Perimeter Institute in Canada, have succeeded. Their approach is based on so-called group field theory. This is closely related to loop quantum gravity, which the AEI has been developing for some time.

The task now consisted in describing how the space of the universe evolves from the elementary cells. Staying with the idea of fluids: How can the hydrodynamics for the flowing water be derived from a theory for the atoms?

This extremely demanding mathematical task recently led to a surprising success. "Under special assumptions, space is created from these building blocks, and evolves like an expanding universe," explains Oriti. "For the first time, we were thus able to derive the Friedmann equation directly as part of our complete theory of the structure of space," he adds. This fundamental equation, which describes the expanding universe, was derived by the Russian mathematician Alexander Friedman in the 1920s on the basis of the General Theory of Relativity. The scientists have therefore succeeded in bridging the gap from the microworld to the macroworld, and thus from to the General Theory of Relativity: they show that space emerges as the condensate of these elementary cells and evolves into a universe which resembles our own.

Quantum gravity could now answer questions regarding the Big Bang

Oriti and his colleagues thus see themselves at the start of a difficult but promising journey. Their current solution is valid only for a homogeneous universe - but our real world is much more complex. It contains inhomogeneities, such as planets, stars and galaxies. The physicists are currently working on including them in their theory.

And they have planned something really big as their ultimate goal. On the one hand, they want to investigate whether it is possible to describe space even during the Big Bang. A few years ago, former AEI researcher Martin Bojowald found clues, as part of a simplified version of loop quantum gravity, that time and space can possibly be traced back through the Big Bang. With their theory, Oriti and his colleagues are hoping to confirm or improve this result.

If it continues to prove successful, the researchers could perhaps use it to explain also the assumed inflationary expansion of the universe shortly after the Big Bang as well, and the nature of the mysterious dark energy. This energy field causes the universe to expand at an ever-increasing rate.

Oriti's colleague Lorenzo Sindoni therefore adds: "We will only be able to really understand the evolution of the when we have a theory of ." The AEI researchers are in good company here: Einstein and his successors, who have been searching for this for almost one hundred years.

Explore further: Theorists apply loop quantum gravity theory to black hole

More information: Gielen, S., Oriti, D. and Sindoni, L. Cosmology from Group Field Theory Formalism for Quantum Gravity, Physical Review Letters, 16 July 2013. arxiv.org/abs/1303.3576

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Space consists of tiny elementary cells or "atoms of space" in some modern theories

Dense aether theory explains it with superfluid condensation. When the gas changes phase of matter, the density fluctuations emerge. These density fluctuations have character of string mesh inside of dense elastic fluids. Without dense aether model the theories like the string theory, string net liquid theory and/or loop quantum gravity theories appear pretty ad-hoced: why some strings should exist in vacuum?

Note that the string mesh mediated transverse waves of light, which are much slower than the longitudinal waves - which explains, why universe expanded fast at the moment, when the primordial space-time (so called false vacuum) condensed into strings. The dense aether model just doesn't consider the Big bang as the main source of this event.

Teech2

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If we would live at the water surface like waterstriders and if we would observe them with their surface ripples, we could observe the same stringy artifacts at both tiny, both large distance scales. it's because the transverse surface ripples are slow, so they create large extent of space, but they tend to scatter into longitudinal waves, when they're too small or too large. And this scattering exhibits the same geometry, like the density fluctuations during condensation of gas. The difference from Big Bang model is, the stringy character of space-time is not independent on actual location of observer, but a function of relative distance from it. If we would move across universe with high speed, some foamy density fluctuations (visible as dark matter strings and CMBR fluctuations) would dissolve before us and emerged behind our back again like during travel through dense fog.

Teech2

1 / 5 (4) 50 minutes ago

This dynamics dissolving of space-time and its condensation back it's called the casual dynamic triangulation in quantum gravity theories and you can watch its animation here. IMO it's the most insightful concept of quantum gravity theories developed so far (comparable to AdS/CFT correspondence in quantum holography). Please note, that the loop quantum gravity theory is dual to string theory in certain extent: in string theory (which is quantum mechanics centric) the space-time is essentially flat (it adheres on Lorentz symmetry) and the particles are formed with strings. Whereas in LQG (which is general relativity centric) the space-time is formed with foam and the particles are considered pin-point nodes of that foam. In AWT model the actual truth is somewhere inbetween: the particles are formed with more dense clusters of space-time foam.
vacuum-mechanics

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And they have planned something really big as their ultimate goal. On the one hand, they want to investigate whether it is possible to describe space even during the Big Bang….
If it continues to prove successful, the researchers could perhaps use it to explain also the assumed inflationary expansion of the universe shortly after the Big Bang as well, and the nature of the mysterious dark energy….
Oriti's colleague Lorenzo Sindoni therefore adds: "We will only be able to really understand the evolution of the universe when we have a theory of quantum gravity." ….


We hope this would be a right theory; anyway it seems to be a technical conventional concept which is difficult for general people. Maybe this simple alternative idea could help…
http://www.vacuum...=9〈=en
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@ Zephyr, ya have managed to ruin a very good topic for discussion right out of the gate,,,, this was one that I could have learned a lot from,,, thanks for spoiling it for me.

Teech2

1 / 5 (1) 20 minutes ago

ya have managed to ruin a very good topic for discussion right out of the gate

Yes, - understand your stance completely and very well. The long-term visitors of this forum here aren't actually interested about most objective view of reality, they're interested about communication and twaddling about it. When they get some solution which doesn't allow any other interpretations, they're getting actually upset with it - because what they actually want is to handle it like unsolved mystery and to speculate about it freely (particularly because religious people are attracted to mysteries, not ready-made solutions). In the same (just even more pronounced) way the mainstream physicists get upset with every attempt for finalizing of their research. So I can understand perfectly, how the contemporary employment driven civilization is working: for me the people are just easily predictable animals.

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(Phys.org) —Present-day physics cannot describe what happened in the Big Bang. Quantum theory and the theory of relativity fail in this almost infinitely dense and hot primal state of the universe. Only an all-encompassing theory of quantum gravity which unifies these two fundamental pillars of physics could provide an insight into how the universe began. Scientists from the Max Planck Institute for Gravitational Physics (Albert Einstein Institute) in Golm/Potsdam and the Perimeter Institute in Canada have made an important discovery along this route. According to their theory, space consists of tiny "building blocks". Taking this as their starting point, the scientists arrive at one of the most fundamental equations of cosmology, the Friedmann equation, which describes the universe. This shows that quantum mechanics and the theory of relativity really can be unified.

For almost a century, the two major theories of physics have coexisted but have been irreconcilable: while Einstein's General Theory of Relativity describes gravity and thus the world at large, describes the world of atoms and . Both theories work extremely well within their own boundaries; however, they break down, as currently formulated, in certain extreme regions, at extremely tiny distances, the so-called Planck scale, for example. Space and time thus have no meaning in black holes or, most notably, during the Big Bang.

Daniele Oriti from the Albert Einstein Institute uses a fluid to illustrate this situation: "We can describe the behaviour of flowing water with the long-known classical theory of hydrodynamics. But if we advance to smaller and smaller scales and eventually come across individual atoms, it no longer applies. Then we need quantum physics." Just as a liquid consists of atoms, Oriti imagines to be made up of or "atoms of space", and a new theory is required to describe them: quantum gravity.

Continuous space is broken down into elementary cells

In Einstein's relativity theory, space is a continuum. Oriti now breaks down this space into tiny elementary cells and applies the principles of quantum physics to them, thus to space itself and to the describing it. This is the unification idea.

A fundamental problem of all approaches to quantum gravity consists in bridging the huge dimensional scales from the space atoms to the dimensions of the universe. This is where Oriti, his colleague Lorenzo Sindoni and Steffen Gielen, a former postdoc at the AEI who is now a researcher at the Perimeter Institute in Canada, have succeeded. Their approach is based on so-called group field theory. This is closely related to loop quantum gravity, which the AEI has been developing for some time.

The task now consisted in describing how the space of the universe evolves from the elementary cells. Staying with the idea of fluids: How can the hydrodynamics for the flowing water be derived from a theory for the atoms?

This extremely demanding mathematical task recently led to a surprising success. "Under special assumptions, space is created from these building blocks, and evolves like an expanding universe," explains Oriti. "For the first time, we were thus able to derive the Friedmann equation directly as part of our complete theory of the structure of space," he adds. This fundamental equation, which describes the expanding universe, was derived by the Russian mathematician Alexander Friedman in the 1920s on the basis of the General Theory of Relativity. The scientists have therefore succeeded in bridging the gap from the microworld to the macroworld, and thus from to the General Theory of Relativity: they show that space emerges as the condensate of these elementary cells and evolves into a universe which resembles our own.

Quantum gravity could now answer questions regarding the Big Bang

Oriti and his colleagues thus see themselves at the start of a difficult but promising journey. Their current solution is valid only for a homogeneous universe - but our real world is much more complex. It contains inhomogeneities, such as planets, stars and galaxies. The physicists are currently working on including them in their theory.

And they have planned something really big as their ultimate goal. On the one hand, they want to investigate whether it is possible to describe space even during the Big Bang. A few years ago, former AEI researcher Martin Bojowald found clues, as part of a simplified version of loop quantum gravity, that time and space can possibly be traced back through the Big Bang. With their theory, Oriti and his colleagues are hoping to confirm or improve this result.

If it continues to prove successful, the researchers could perhaps use it to explain also the assumed inflationary expansion of the universe shortly after the Big Bang as well, and the nature of the mysterious dark energy. This energy field causes the universe to expand at an ever-increasing rate.

Oriti's colleague Lorenzo Sindoni therefore adds: "We will only be able to really understand the evolution of the when we have a theory of ." The AEI researchers are in good company here: Einstein and his successors, who have been searching for this for almost one hundred years.

Explore further: Theorists apply loop quantum gravity theory to black hole

More information: Gielen, S., Oriti, D. and Sindoni, L. Cosmology from Group Field Theory Formalism for Quantum Gravity, Physical Review Letters, 16 July 2013. arxiv.org/abs/1303.3576

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Teech2

1 / 5 (4) 1 hour ago

Space consists of tiny elementary cells or "atoms of space" in some modern theories

Dense aether theory explains it with superfluid condensation. When the gas changes phase of matter, the density fluctuations emerge. These density fluctuations have character of

string mesh inside

of dense elastic fluids. Without dense aether model the theories like the string theory, string net liquid theory and/or loop quantum gravity theories appear pretty ad-hoced: why some strings should exist in vacuum?

Note that the string mesh mediated transverse waves of light, which are much slower than the longitudinal waves - which explains, why universe expanded fast at the moment, when the primordial space-time (so called false vacuum) condensed into strings. The dense aether model just doesn't consider the Big bang as the main source of this event.

Teech2

1 / 5 (4) 1 hour ago

If we would live at the water surface like waterstriders and if we would observe them with their surface ripples, we could observe the same stringy artifacts at both tiny, both large distance scales. it's because the transverse surface ripples are slow, so they create large extent of space, but they tend to scatter into longitudinal waves, when they're too small or too large. And this scattering exhibits the same geometry, like the density fluctuations during condensation of gas. The difference from Big Bang model is, the stringy character of space-time is not independent on actual location of observer, but a function of relative distance from it. If we would move across universe with high speed, some foamy density fluctuations (visible as dark matter strings and CMBR fluctuations) would dissolve before us and emerged behind our back again like during travel through dense fog.

Teech2

1 / 5 (4) 50 minutes ago

This dynamics dissolving of space-time and its condensation back it's called the

casual dynamic triangulation

in quantum gravity theories and you can watch

its animation here

. IMO it's the most insightful concept of quantum gravity theories developed so far (comparable to AdS/CFT correspondence in quantum holography). Please note, that the loop quantum gravity theory is dual to string theory in certain extent: in string theory (which is quantum mechanics centric) the space-time is essentially flat (it adheres on Lorentz symmetry) and the particles are formed with strings. Whereas in LQG (which is general relativity centric) the space-time is formed with foam and the particles are considered pin-point nodes of that foam. In AWT model the actual truth is somewhere inbetween: the particles are formed with more dense clusters of space-time foam.

vacuum-mechanics

1 / 5 (3) 40 minutes ago

And they have planned something really big as their ultimate goal. On the one hand, they want to investigate whether it is possible to describe space even during the Big Bang….
If it continues to prove successful, the researchers could perhaps use it to explain also the assumed inflationary expansion of the universe shortly after the Big Bang as well, and the nature of the mysterious dark energy….
Oriti's colleague Lorenzo Sindoni therefore adds: "We will only be able to really understand the evolution of the universe when we have a theory of quantum gravity." ….

We hope this would be a right theory; anyway it seems to be a technical conventional concept which is difficult for general people. Maybe this simple alternative idea could help…


http://www.vacuum...=9〈=en
Q-Star

not rated yet 28 minutes ago

@ Zephyr, ya have managed to ruin a very good topic for discussion right out of the gate,,,, this was one that I could have learned a lot from,,, thanks for spoiling it for me.

Teech2

1 / 5 (1) 20 minutes ago

ya have managed to ruin a very good topic for discussion right out of the gate

Yes, - understand your stance completely and very well. The long-term visitors of this forum here aren't actually interested about most objective view of reality, they're interested about communication and twaddling about it. When they get some solution which doesn't allow any other interpretations, they're getting actually upset with it - because what they actually want is to handle it like unsolved mystery and to speculate about it freely (particularly because religious people are attracted to mysteries, not ready-made solutions). In the same (just even more pronounced) way the mainstream physicists

get upset

with every attempt for finalizing of their research. So I can understand perfectly, how the contemporary employment driven civilization is working: for me the people are just easily predictable animals.

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